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diplom diplomacy politics is about

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negotiation is about ongoing debate if

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one man lived on rockol you wouldn't say

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that that one man had the sovereignty

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over rockol it's British and it's the

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British government's decision what to do

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about the islands there's only 2,300

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people 8,000 M away we're almost

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bankrupt and you won't even talk to the

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people who say that the islands are

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theirs Georg

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just won't won't they want one thing and

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they don't agree with but Geor is is

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better than war war you know that better

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than anybody else a distinguished

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Soldier you just heard the Admiral we

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can't even defend these if Argentina

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invaded without an aircraft carrier we

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couldn't even fight them so let's talk

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to them and share the sovereignty that's

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my point of view clear Argentina should

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not invade this is a matter of national

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self-determination I have worked for the

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United Nations I totally agree that

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people should decide what they want to

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do these islands were Windswept and

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uninhabited when the first people went

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there they raised sheep or whatever they

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did and they they were British they

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there were no argentines there Argentina

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wasn't even in existence then and

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suddenly this fous claim think it of

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course it was there but it wasn't in the

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political entity it is now Bob the key

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point is National self-determination the

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fanders even by their own claim are not

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a nation they are a group of people who

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say that they're British if they're

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British the decision on what happens

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with these islands is ours not theirs

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but can I just ask if the people of of

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the Falcons I think we pretty well know

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what the results going to be if they

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vote overwhelmingly that they want to

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stay British and have this as a British

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territory you don't think we should

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listen to that no because the

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sovereignty belongs to us if it belongs

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to anybody not to them you can't be

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dictated by 23 is there any other part

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of the world where you think

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self-determination is wrong yes in the

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north of Ireland you cannot say because

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a Jerry Mander entity has a majority now

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maybe not later that you won't talk to

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the people who say this isand is their

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well we've done the right thing in

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Ireland we've started a politic the

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people of Northern Ireland voted to stay

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part of Britain in a pite and they're

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part of Britain we listened why wouldn't

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we not do that with the F can I just

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point out that I let him ask a question

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then I'll come to you because the

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negotiation which led to the Irish peace

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process is the opposite of what Cameron

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did with Kar the other day we didn't

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walk away from the Republic of Ireland

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refus to talk to them Eng them and we

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had a diplomatic solution I mean we are

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8,000 mil away Argentina is not that far

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away it's part of the geopolitics of

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that region wouldn't it be in our

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long-term interest to begin a dialogue

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with them yes but let's have a dialogue

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where which is sensible the at the

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moment what would you talk to them about

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I I would say look let's get this sorted

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out these people want to remain as they

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are we want I particularly would like to

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see them open up trade negotiations and

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that sort of thing which is actually

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closed in South America certainly in

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Argentina at the moment that is a

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problem I would like there to be

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friendly relations I'd like there to be

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a direct flight an easy direct flight

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into Argentina and back I would like

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argentinians to come and visit the the

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Warg Graves and the people would that be

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a start would never never happened

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because Argentina claims the right to

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these islands and

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Latin point

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we've discussed this before if we make a

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deal now we can share sovereignty with

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ar Argentina which by the way will make

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us quids in instead of spending billions

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with the possibility of many billions

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more with soldiers we don't have and

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aircraft carriers we don't have we can

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AR has no mil the Argentina military

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hasn't been updated since 1982 Andrew

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you wouldn't need it I was in the Army

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Cadet Force our uh Royal artillery

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Squadron could could land on the Fons

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tomorrow and the British couldn't do

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that about it we don't even have an

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sorry I disagree with that that's wrong

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I've just been there they certainly

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could not they certainly could not I

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mean at the moment we we are quite

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strong on that but we're only strong the

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argentinians are saying the British are

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remilitarized the folklands I tell you

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why we're down there in strength it's

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because 30 years ago 900 people 255 of

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them British were killed in a silly

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dispute that should never have happened

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because they started it and the Tes were

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ready to share sovereignty at that time

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so look back I know you've not been in

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Parliament that long look back I'm old

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enough the government were ready to

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share sovereignty at that time both the

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Tor government and the labor government

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think they were talking about can I I

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just ask you a real politique question I

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mean the Fulon Islands over the years

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has cost Britain quite a lot of money I

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think it's about 61 million a year to

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and of course it's cost more importantly

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the lives that were lost in retaking it

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30 years ago why would you want to give

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it up now when it looks there may be

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some oil revenues to be had because you

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might have to give it up in total later

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my politics is well the Latin American

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subcontinent is 100% behind our not you

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said this to me last time I looked at it

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even the Spanish have now turned against

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Argentina the Spanish are a long way

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away but the Brazilians the argentinians

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The Growing Power of Venezuela and

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Ecuador and these countries that are

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rich we should have good relations with

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them so let's make good relations with

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them share the oil and gas in the

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forlands save ourselves the money and

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not have to send an aircraft carrier and

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lose more men